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welcome to shattered reality with your

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hosts Kate Valentine and furs prepare to

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have your paradigm shifted in the truths

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questioned and now shattered reality

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well no the show another day how are you

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doing today firoozeh Kate I'm doing

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quite well good and I am happy to

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announce that this is our 58th show

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we've been going at it for three years

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could you believe that really yeah

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seriously seriously Wow no I believe

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yeah and today I'm going to slate as

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usual today is November 14th 2017 and

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this week this month we have a very

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interesting guest we've had people on

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before like a Paul Smith who is a remote

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viewer and we've spoken a good deal

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about remote viewing and if you recall

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both you and our trusty engineer were

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very interested in how we might make

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some money with remote viewing and I had

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tried to explain the whole thing down to

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the two of you went to our listeners and

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I sort of got it across but maybe not as

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well as the premiere associative remote

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viewer that's out there mr. mati

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Rosenblatt let's welcome him to

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shattered reality okay Marty welcome

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well thank you very much a pleasure to

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be here so I just think I should kind of

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mention how I know you and I'm not sure

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I think we may have met in person at one

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of the irva international remote viewers

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Association meetings that I was at

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where where was it down south but not

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New Orleans yes yes New Orleans that so

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I was down there at that one remote

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viewing conference and Marty is a real

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stalwart in the in the international

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remote viewers Association he's a

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longtime member and he also if I can get

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this correctly now he he is also the

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head of the applied precondition project

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he runs a website in addition called

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physics intuition applications and so

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what I would like to talk to you about

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firstly is how associative remote

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viewing is different from other kinds of

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remote viewing and I know but not all my

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okay well remote viewing in general

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gives you the ability and this is a

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natural ability I don't even like to

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call a paranormal anymore because it

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makes sound like it's not normal but

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it's a very normal capability that when

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you get quiet and set your intention you

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can get information from a distance

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now distance includes space and time

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using capability that consciousness has

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where simply by intending to send your

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consciousness someplace that's one way

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of looking at it you could pick up

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information about whatever is there the

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military did this I'm sure Paul Smith

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must have talked a lot about that

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because it was used by the military as

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well as lots of other people now there

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where you try to get information at a

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distance past present or future where a

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let's let's focus on that is an

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application of remote viewing where you

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in fact do want to make a decision among

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possible outcomes now let me get a

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little bit more specific and connect

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these to one of the ways we use this is

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predictions so let's just make a simple

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financial prediction let's say we want

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to know tomorrow if the excuse me if the

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stock market is going to go up or down

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or down now how does remote viewing come

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in here well let's say I were to take

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or something like that and that might be

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associated with my down picture well a

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could be tasked to go to the whale what

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task them to go to their own feedback

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session when they're going to see one or

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the other of these pictures now they're

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blind to all of this all they're tasked

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with is describe and sketch the photo we

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call it a photo site because they could

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can do all of them use all the senses

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describe and sketch the photo site that

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which is himself in the future now let's

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how long he works he can get better at

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when I see that session and that's

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before the market opens and I'm the

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judge so I'll be judging his transcript

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because down is going to be the the

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the Eiffel Tower but the fact that he

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drew the whale where did he get that

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information from he went to the future

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when in fact I showed him the picture of

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the whale that's associative remote

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viewing because I get to make that

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judgment before the market opens and

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then I can wager in the up direction

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well I will say that I have seen it work

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you had some free sessions for practice

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that you opened up to members of hurva

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them over the Internet and we wrote we

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wrote out our responses and

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yeah maybe not a little luck but I got

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both of them and made $40 on the first

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wager that I bet on with you isn't that

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cool that is so cool and what is more

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cool is that you're not just using in

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what you do you're not just using one

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participants in the two and the two

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precognition project in fact our website

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conferences and he does some great stuff

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time and science of course is is

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time but it's obvious that you can

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that then you're saying that the future

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present moment yes because when I in the

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example I gave you of the whale the only

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only awareness the past is only a memory

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and guess what we know memories are not

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100% either right well the future memory

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trying to remember the future which is

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going to come free will is in the now

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the only time you get to make choices

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the only time you get to influence what

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absolute fundamental aspect of our being

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yeah are there influences absolutely

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from the past and this is what's so

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magnificent magnificent also from the

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future so knowing that you can put out

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positive intentions which you're going

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to go both ways help the past influence

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the future and I'm spending more and

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more time getting into health now

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appreciate that all times are connected

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consciousness kind of show

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that everything is indeed connected all

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of your conscious moments past present

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future are all connected you can pay

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more attention to the now and put out

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these health healthy thoughts put out

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things with your own free will that in

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fact will influence you in a positive

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things that you state are fairly you

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movements of some political aspects some

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worldwide events something that would

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influence the stock market or even for

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example in a horse race I mean you have

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the morning line you have various

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jockeys you have various horses and if

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they're able to access that information

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now that's readily available on a in the

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so called present and then now and then

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interpolate that into a potential in

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other words there's a million different

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outcomes but you know in the collapsing

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state of course one of them is going to

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be the final outcome and I'm wondering

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if the mind isn't that fast to access

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all this information that's also

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floating around to come up with the most

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likely outcome well that's interesting

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because that is another model of what's

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going on and I will refute that for you

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right now and that is this exact same

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idea has been done in fact it was at

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Princeton University there was a group

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they called pair yes we've had them a

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couple of uh we've had Roger Nelson and

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oh boy she's going to be mad at me all

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of a sudden same atrophy you better

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start accessing the future yeah we had

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that we had the keys we had movement I

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know and yeah because but but let me

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make my point with this what they did is

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something very similar to what I've

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discussed here except they did it with

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pure random number

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generators right and predict the random

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number generators where there isn't the

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kind of information out there that

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you're talking about how many numbers in

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a random generator

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well they zero in once and it's Brenda

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done please Brenda red give us all of a

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sudden my I kept thinking marry and it

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was not merry anything yes she was on

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with us let's use that smarty joking bit

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hey that's good we have that fun at this

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this is this is fantastic stuff but also

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the other way to look at this is

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pictures remember all the person is

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really predicting is a random picture

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the association is unknown to them when

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this program when you see some of these

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comparisons how could they know a random

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picture that they've never seen and do

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such a good match if it wasn't getting

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direct access from the future and the

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future and here's another word and there

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aren't too many but but here's another

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word I want to put out there retro

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causation yeah that's a new buzzword and

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there's a lot of science going on now

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with that term they used to do a

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precognition but now they like to think

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about the now affecting the past just

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like the feedback session was affecting

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the remote viewing session that's called

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retro causation and that's what's

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happening here that whale the fact that

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the person saw it tomorrow okay cause

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the remote viewing session to come in

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now one final word and this is a word

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that comes from quantum mechanics and

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this is what in my opinion is exactly

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going on and that is the word

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entanglement right are being totally

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entangled between the remote viewing

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session when you were tasked to describe

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it sketch what you go to see in the

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future and that indeed is entangled with

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that future time

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kento can I add one thing Marty - Kate's

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question which was very good I thought

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but that with some of the associative

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remote-viewing

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I don't know if you did this in practice

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sessions we had with you but with some

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of the associative remote-viewing they

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it is triple blind

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in other words like let's say somebody

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like Russ Targ he puts two pictures in

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an envelope and then he passes them over

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to Stephen Schwartz and he writes on one

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of them stock market up and on the other

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one stock market down so they don't even

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know what the picture is and which one

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refers to RIT which I just picked those

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guys out at random because I know them

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right they're involved so the so it

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could be like triple blind and therefore

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the original people don't even know I

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mean the judges don't know which one is

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which until they open the envelope on on

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the morning of the stock market you know

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it still begs a question though yeah I

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mean you know there was an interest I've

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been trying to think of the physicist

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name but this might be actually much

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more to your point and that's is that he

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said that for example let's say there

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was a big bang he assumes that

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everything everywhere occurs

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simultaneously but the human mind cannot

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wrap itself around that and so it

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invented time in that case if that man

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were true then then your theories would

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be valid and I accept that I call that

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the eternal now and I didn't invent that

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term that turns been around a long time

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there are so many different ways of

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looking at this frankly the eternal time

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one I think is the closest to the way it

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really is except somehow in a way we

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can't understand this creative into this

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well creative freewill idea has to get

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put in there you know so it's not just a

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one-liner

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but I do believe it is all out there now

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and we're creating it so it's like the

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information we see what we're really

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talking about is information that's why

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in some ways it doesn't contradict what

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Einstein said about you know nothing can

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travel faster than light well that's

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sort of right if you talk about mass but

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information that doesn't really have you

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know mass associated with it and

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everything we're talking about is in

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like quantum and information theory and

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there are whole fields of people looking

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at that sort of thing so it it your

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hypothesis that you could sort of from

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the past extrapolate into the future I

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just think it it doesn't hold water if

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you will because there are too many

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cases where it was totally blind the

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only way the person can get and we do

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everything we can including some cases

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with independent judges which a triple

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blind except for a computer the computer

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picks the two random pictures out of a

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set of eight hundred possible pairs and

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nobody but the computer knows what those

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are the remote viewer doesn't know it

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until he sees it the judge does see it

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because he has to see the two so that

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they can wager but there's no way that

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you can extrapolate that picture from

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the present since it's randomly done by

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a computer well it's it's just really

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fascinating stuff if somebody if our

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listeners and I poorly described it on

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another one of our episodes but if one

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of a group this is this is the thing

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about remote viewing

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I love remote viewing I've been doing

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remote viewing for over ten years I've

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studied with three or fourteen well

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probably four or five teachers at this

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juncture and I really enjoy it but it's

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something that must be done in a

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group no no you can do it by yourself

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because I haven't figured out how yet oh

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yeah we have we have now in our group

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over 800 members and they're about a

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hundred I would say who are active doing

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you know they listen to the discussions

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and we give webinars and stuff like that

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and they're probably about a hundred or

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so who are active in our various groups

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we probably have about 15 active groups

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between sports and financials right

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right and most of them are doing this by

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themselves some with independent judges

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and they send their transcripts you know

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all everything's done over the Internet

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we do tasking over emails but then once

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a person gets a tasking online they

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click and they get a coordinate and then

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they do their remote viewing session on

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their own you can sit down quietly

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you've got your coordinate now you sit

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down quietly you do your remote viewing

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session and then we ask you to upload it

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to our server right via ok and so we

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keep track of everything we're really

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big on statistics because we want to

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find those people that are very good at

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this and we have an associative company

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called a PPI it's like the app Institute

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where we have something called Precog

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prose and we actually give them a stake

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and become partners with them yes once

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we identify someone as being good we

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will basically make them a professional

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and we'll set up an even partnership

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00:24:10,549 --> 00:24:06,630
with them and all of that information is

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on our website repeat and again d4r for

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a listener because we want them to go to

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it as well sure applied Precog dot-com

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so the word applied and then Precog no

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space.com and they'll see everything

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00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:31,770
I think you misunderstood what I was

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saying though Marty I mean not not not

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drastically because that's how I

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participated in the two practice

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sessions I did with you I'm good at home

460
00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:43,710
yeah then in the groups that you offered

461
00:24:49,409 --> 00:24:46,450
through through irva I guess is how I

462
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got got to it and I came on there and

463
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did did two two sessions with you and

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the group but what I meant was when I

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did study remote viewing and and and

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00:25:03,419 --> 00:25:01,299
practiced it with you and I studied it

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00:25:06,899 --> 00:25:03,429
with others it's always helped me it's

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always up to my my side potential so to

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speak that because I work as an

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intuitive you know that's my job so so

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it has helped me and that's why I've

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continued to do it but even in the

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manner that you describe you the

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putative remote viewer is participating

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with a group in other words they they're

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getting their coordinates from you or

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your organization and then they are

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00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:32,470
uploading their session now they're

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doing it alone in their home but it's

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not a singular activity as opposed to

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let's say me reading your cards would be

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a singular activity you see the

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difference of what I'm saying I do and

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00:25:51,450 --> 00:25:47,679
you're exactly right in fact as I said

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we have 15 or so active groups in

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exactly the sense that you mean and you

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are part of that group

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and you make your own individual

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00:26:03,750 --> 00:26:00,640
prediction but then also after someone

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like myself who's a group manager looks

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00:26:07,740 --> 00:26:05,830
at all the different predictions we will

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actually put out a group prediction

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00:26:13,140 --> 00:26:10,809
right so what you're saying is is right

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on well I'm sure you're aware too that

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Wall Street hires pretty advanced

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mathematicians and in now they will

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predict various outcomes in the stock

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00:26:27,210 --> 00:26:25,840
market based on statistical analysis do

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00:26:29,610 --> 00:26:27,220
you think that they're actually just

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using math or do you think as a group

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they're starting to as you said this

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cognitive ability is inherent and human

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so you think that perhaps they're

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accessing that in addition to having

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some really pretty cool statistical and

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now

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well I'd say there's both I mean they're

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Xterra yeah there's some funds that are

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really into the heavy mathematics and

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predicting things and all that but I

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would think there are other funds out

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00:27:02,630 --> 00:26:59,790
there that use traders and even though

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00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:02,640
they might not say it but their traders

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00:27:07,790 --> 00:27:05,490
are basically using their gut using

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00:27:09,530 --> 00:27:07,800
intuition it's actually exactly and I

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00:27:11,360 --> 00:27:09,540
think when they say using your gut

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they're actually accessing what you

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00:27:17,990 --> 00:27:14,970
refer to as an innate ability I'd

519
00:27:20,210 --> 00:27:18,000
totally agree exactly hedge funds do use

520
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:20,220
remote viewers and I know some of them

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00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:22,170
that work for hedge funds on the other

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00:27:26,780 --> 00:27:25,170
hand some funds just use quants which is

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00:27:28,820 --> 00:27:26,790
what you were talking about that's the I

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00:27:31,190 --> 00:27:28,830
guess that's the name of the the field

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00:27:34,130 --> 00:27:31,200
of these advanced mathematicians are

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generally called quants at their offices

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00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:37,110
do the hedge funds that you know about

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00:27:42,770 --> 00:27:39,090
are they public will they acknowledge

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00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:42,780
they're using remote viewers you know I

530
00:27:49,130 --> 00:27:47,010
would refer you privately to after the

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00:27:52,220 --> 00:27:49,140
show to the remote viewers that I know

532
00:27:54,500 --> 00:27:52,230
that do that for money and I know you

533
00:27:57,070 --> 00:27:54,510
know these people so I will refer you to

534
00:27:59,390 --> 00:27:57,080
them rather than outing somebody on

535
00:28:01,730 --> 00:27:59,400
public I mean I don't know what's

536
00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:01,740
private and what's public so I would

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00:28:06,260 --> 00:28:04,050
rather keep my mouth shut but I know

538
00:28:08,060 --> 00:28:06,270
it's good I knew I do know beyond the

539
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:08,070
shadow of a doubt that there are people

540
00:28:15,430 --> 00:28:12,090
who are employed by hedge funds to

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00:28:17,000 --> 00:28:15,440
predict things and I I do recall that

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00:28:19,580 --> 00:28:17,010
rust argh

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00:28:23,590 --> 00:28:19,590
and Stephen Schwartz when I studied with

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00:28:28,130 --> 00:28:23,600
them that they were talking about oh

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00:28:32,750 --> 00:28:28,140
geez the silver futures and that they

546
00:28:34,940 --> 00:28:32,760
had not a binary model but a four part

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model goes up a little goes up a lot

548
00:28:39,230 --> 00:28:37,020
goes down a little goes down a lot and

549
00:28:41,090 --> 00:28:39,240
and they did quite well with it until

550
00:28:43,670 --> 00:28:41,100
they got bored or something and then

551
00:28:45,740 --> 00:28:43,680
they lost the they lost the plot so to

552
00:28:48,110 --> 00:28:45,750
speak no that's exactly right

553
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:48,120
rust args he was like the first one to

554
00:28:52,820 --> 00:28:50,370
do that in the silvers market he made

555
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:52,830
the Wall Street Journal on that but then

556
00:28:56,690 --> 00:28:55,290
tried it again he said he got too much

557
00:28:59,570 --> 00:28:56,700
pressure from the advisor

558
00:29:01,700 --> 00:28:59,580
stirrers to do more than they were doing

559
00:29:04,100 --> 00:29:01,710
at the original one and then it didn't

560
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:04,110
work well and Stephen Schwartz was

561
00:29:07,490 --> 00:29:05,610
successful I think he was the one who

562
00:29:10,550 --> 00:29:07,500
stopped just because it was the way he

563
00:29:13,450 --> 00:29:10,560
put it too much work anybody gotten a

564
00:29:16,550 --> 00:29:13,460
little bored and you know he's not one

565
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:16,560
you know that was after the money per se

566
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:19,710
and I think he had made his point you

567
00:29:25,340 --> 00:29:22,170
know why I'm doing all of this again why

568
00:29:26,990 --> 00:29:25,350
we're good not for the miscue it's not

569
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:27,000
for the money but it is for the money

570
00:29:33,170 --> 00:29:30,210
and let me explain why I want to have a

571
00:29:36,470 --> 00:29:33,180
lot of people make a lot of money on

572
00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:36,480
this so society will wake up to the

573
00:29:42,460 --> 00:29:39,810
reality the information we've been

574
00:29:45,740 --> 00:29:42,470
talking about has been out there forever

575
00:29:49,580 --> 00:29:45,750
Oracle's and Delphi the Bible has all

576
00:29:53,660 --> 00:29:49,590
kinds of examples of precognition and

577
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:53,670
yet our society and science which really

578
00:30:00,530 --> 00:29:56,970
frost me as a scientist refused to

579
00:30:04,510 --> 00:30:00,540
acknowledge that consciousness has these

580
00:30:07,430 --> 00:30:04,520
kind of psycho [\h__\h]

581
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:07,440
money talks to society let's just face

582
00:30:17,320 --> 00:30:11,250
it that is our society materialistic it

583
00:30:25,630 --> 00:30:21,620
yeah and so if if we can get a lot of

584
00:30:28,610 --> 00:30:25,640
people doing this and making money

585
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:28,620
science will not start investigating it

586
00:30:36,530 --> 00:30:33,170
to try to understand it better and also

587
00:30:38,540 --> 00:30:36,540
one other aspect of this the people who

588
00:30:41,750 --> 00:30:38,550
get into this has certainly been my

589
00:30:43,670 --> 00:30:41,760
experience and I don't think it has to

590
00:30:47,150 --> 00:30:43,680
be this way but it's in my experience

591
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:47,160
become more deeply spiritual and you

592
00:30:51,170 --> 00:30:49,410
know what I would like to have those

593
00:30:53,870 --> 00:30:51,180
kind of people have a lot of money

594
00:30:57,500 --> 00:30:53,880
because they would use it in much wiser

595
00:31:01,610 --> 00:30:57,510
ways than you know a lot of the others

596
00:31:03,950 --> 00:31:01,620
who are say pure lis materialistic which

597
00:31:06,930 --> 00:31:03,960
don't have kind of a spur to allege to

598
00:31:09,659 --> 00:31:06,940
them the spiritual side yes

599
00:31:12,389 --> 00:31:09,669
that's what's motivating me well that's

600
00:31:14,969 --> 00:31:12,399
very cool but you don't know why you're

601
00:31:16,979 --> 00:31:14,979
almost going backwards in time if I

602
00:31:19,379 --> 00:31:16,989
might say that you know you say that

603
00:31:21,169 --> 00:31:19,389
science does not recognize these

604
00:31:24,060 --> 00:31:21,179
abilities and you're quite right

605
00:31:26,700 --> 00:31:24,070
but what was that turnover must have

606
00:31:29,070 --> 00:31:26,710
been in the 1700s because philosophy was

607
00:31:31,769 --> 00:31:29,080
the love of knowledge and that's what

608
00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:31,779
started during the Renaissance the whole

609
00:31:37,139 --> 00:31:34,210
european investigation into the

610
00:31:39,089 --> 00:31:37,149
so-called sciences what do you have any

611
00:31:41,940 --> 00:31:39,099
idea or if you have any thoughts about

612
00:31:44,039 --> 00:31:41,950
where that I mean prior to Newton I

613
00:31:47,099 --> 00:31:44,049
would say it was pretty philosophical

614
00:31:49,049 --> 00:31:47,109
and pretty religious and after that with

615
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:49,059
cause and effect it seemed to switch

616
00:31:54,330 --> 00:31:52,570
into you know you don't have a cause for

617
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:54,340
that effect and that effect doesn't

618
00:32:01,109 --> 00:31:57,570
happen yeah that was an interesting

619
00:32:03,239 --> 00:32:01,119
switch oh yeah yeah and it may very well

620
00:32:05,940 --> 00:32:03,249
in what was called the Scientific

621
00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:05,950
Revolution science did become and I

622
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:07,809
never would want to take anything away

623
00:32:12,299 --> 00:32:10,330
from science and the intellectual part

624
00:32:14,460 --> 00:32:12,309
of us it's just that we've lost that

625
00:32:16,349 --> 00:32:14,470
balance yeah you've lost the balance

626
00:32:19,739 --> 00:32:16,359
between the intellect and the intuitive

627
00:32:21,930 --> 00:32:19,749
but science became and maybe as the

628
00:32:23,639 --> 00:32:21,940
Copernicus Revolution was in other times

629
00:32:27,629 --> 00:32:23,649
just about the timeframe you're talking

630
00:32:30,029 --> 00:32:27,639
about it became so popular that this

631
00:32:31,979 --> 00:32:30,039
other side and when they were the

632
00:32:33,839 --> 00:32:31,989
parapsychology Association was

633
00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:33,849
investigating all kinds of things back

634
00:32:43,710 --> 00:32:38,470
then right but they got sort of dwarfed

635
00:32:45,599 --> 00:32:43,720
by all of the great accomplishments of

636
00:32:48,869 --> 00:32:45,609
science would you continuing to this day

637
00:32:53,419 --> 00:32:48,879
right well I think that we sort of have

638
00:32:56,940 --> 00:32:53,429
to draw a difference between science and

639
00:33:01,379 --> 00:32:56,950
technology and also between religious

640
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:01,389
and spiritual because prior to the

641
00:33:04,999 --> 00:33:04,210
Copernican Revolution and Newton and so

642
00:33:09,509 --> 00:33:05,009
forth

643
00:33:13,879 --> 00:33:09,519
religion was dogmatic and not not too

644
00:33:18,210 --> 00:33:13,889
many Gnostics around to be to be

645
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:18,220
spiritual about it religion was a in the

646
00:33:23,259 --> 00:33:20,809
Western world and in the judeo-christian

647
00:33:28,649 --> 00:33:23,269
Meritage including the islamic heritage

648
00:33:31,779 --> 00:33:28,659
we see a paternalistic sort of hierarchy

649
00:33:34,659 --> 00:33:31,789
being and having us being told what the

650
00:33:37,149 --> 00:33:34,669
thought to think and that's rather

651
00:33:38,769 --> 00:33:37,159
different from spiritualism or I don't

652
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:38,779
mean spiritualism like ghost I mean

653
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:41,210
being spirit spirituality it's relevant

654
00:33:45,989 --> 00:33:43,210
to say yeah

655
00:33:48,820 --> 00:33:45,999
absolutely absolutely

656
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:48,830
so how did you get into all this anyway

657
00:33:55,539 --> 00:33:50,960
Marty's it's sort of a really

658
00:34:00,029 --> 00:33:55,549
interesting field well you know I for 35

659
00:34:03,369 --> 00:34:00,039
years I was a classical physicist doing

660
00:34:06,070 --> 00:34:03,379
computational physics simulating nuclear

661
00:34:12,540 --> 00:34:06,080
weapon effects inside of jet engines

662
00:34:15,669 --> 00:34:12,550
high-energy physics Wow but before that

663
00:34:17,740 --> 00:34:15,679
okay I'm gonna mix this up with you

664
00:34:20,710 --> 00:34:17,750
you'll get it okay I was always

665
00:34:23,290 --> 00:34:20,720
interested in as a child science fiction

666
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:23,300
and advanced stuff and used to read

667
00:34:28,089 --> 00:34:25,129
about these miracle stories that these

668
00:34:30,250 --> 00:34:28,099
yoga's and gurus would supposedly do and

669
00:34:32,980 --> 00:34:30,260
I never knew what to do with that but

670
00:34:35,639 --> 00:34:32,990
it's always interesting and then the

671
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:35,649
imagining of science fiction now I'm a

672
00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:40,010
scientist and I have clearances because

673
00:34:43,629 --> 00:34:41,929
we used to do like I said nuclear weapon

674
00:34:46,599 --> 00:34:43,639
effects work and things like that so I

675
00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:46,609
had contact with the DIA and I see this

676
00:34:54,089 --> 00:34:49,129
article by how poo dolphin rust argh

677
00:34:56,409 --> 00:34:54,099
early 1970s on remote viewing and the

678
00:34:57,970 --> 00:34:56,419
fact that they had a sort of invent that

679
00:35:00,940 --> 00:34:57,980
word because they couldn't use psychic

680
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:00,950
phenomena I went to my DNA contacts I

681
00:35:05,710 --> 00:35:02,480
said guy you guys need to know about

682
00:35:08,260 --> 00:35:05,720
this it turned out later I found out

683
00:35:10,660 --> 00:35:08,270
they were funding how poo - rust argh

684
00:35:14,740 --> 00:35:10,670
and they sent me to meet them

685
00:35:16,180 --> 00:35:14,750
so I actually met them in the mid-70s I

686
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:16,190
don't remember exactly when it was but

687
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:18,170
it was after that first paper came out

688
00:35:24,579 --> 00:35:21,710
and so you know I've never lost and

689
00:35:29,170 --> 00:35:24,589
those guys were so impressive they did

690
00:35:33,220 --> 00:35:29,180
the first real science I ever saw on

691
00:35:35,589 --> 00:35:33,230
this subject and basically their studies

692
00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:35,599
basically proved it you know with odds

693
00:35:42,010 --> 00:35:37,849
against chance of well over one out of a

694
00:35:43,539 --> 00:35:42,020
million that sort of thing where I do

695
00:35:45,359 --> 00:35:43,549
that what did you got you get these

696
00:35:47,500 --> 00:35:45,369
psychics would give you their yearly

697
00:35:49,690 --> 00:35:47,510
predictions but they would never come

698
00:35:51,609 --> 00:35:49,700
back and give you any kind of feedback

699
00:35:54,039 --> 00:35:51,619
you know what was their percentage hit

700
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:54,049
rate and all that but these guys were

701
00:35:59,730 --> 00:35:56,450
doing all that it was very impressive to

702
00:36:06,579 --> 00:35:59,740
see science take on this field yes and

703
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:06,589
so when I got at the end of my sort of

704
00:36:11,620 --> 00:36:09,530
classical career I was in a position

705
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:11,630
where I could do what I wanted which is

706
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:14,089
perfect when you're you know near

707
00:36:19,510 --> 00:36:15,890
retirement I retired relatively early

708
00:36:22,020 --> 00:36:19,520
and this is what I got into I started a

709
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:22,030
company called physics intuition

710
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:23,930
applications

711
00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:26,930
that's defunct now and now I'm totally

712
00:36:37,630 --> 00:36:30,290
within applied precognition project and

713
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:37,640
this APPI and I'm just having a great

714
00:36:41,859 --> 00:36:39,530
time you know it's just so interesting

715
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:41,869
to be at cutting-edge always at cutting

716
00:36:48,849 --> 00:36:45,530
edge and regular science for my 35 year

717
00:36:54,510 --> 00:36:48,859
plus career as a classical scientist and

718
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:54,520
now I'm probably in my 15th year in this

719
00:36:59,020 --> 00:36:56,690
sigh I don't know what you got

720
00:37:01,260 --> 00:36:59,030
precognition Retro causation feel

721
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:01,270
consciousness it's really about

722
00:37:09,160 --> 00:37:05,170
consciousness yes would you like to have

723
00:37:12,099 --> 00:37:09,170
my pet theory yes about how this it's

724
00:37:15,339 --> 00:37:12,109
really okay absolutely have you heard of

725
00:37:17,530 --> 00:37:15,349
vacuum energy zero point energy rope

726
00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:17,540
that was Buddhist right was really the

727
00:37:26,260 --> 00:37:21,430
guy who got into that yeah isn't that

728
00:37:30,250 --> 00:37:26,270
interesting yeah after he left sr i he

729
00:37:32,470 --> 00:37:30,260
started a company and probably a few

730
00:37:34,260 --> 00:37:32,480
other people but what he got into was

731
00:37:38,380 --> 00:37:34,270
zero-point energy

732
00:37:42,190 --> 00:37:38,390
now's ero point energy as you probably

733
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:42,200
know is this bubbling energy down at the

734
00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:44,930
smallest scale that you can imagine so

735
00:37:50,670 --> 00:37:46,030
no matter where

736
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:50,680
you are at whatever time you are the one

737
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:52,930
thing which is always around is this

738
00:38:00,300 --> 00:37:57,010
zero-point energy field which is at any

739
00:38:04,620 --> 00:38:00,310
point that you go down to you will get

740
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:04,630
these huge amounts of energy I mean

741
00:38:09,750 --> 00:38:07,810
really huge energy densities on the

742
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:09,760
order of what goes on when you set off a

743
00:38:13,980 --> 00:38:11,410
nuclear explosion okay

744
00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:13,990
so we're sitting on this potential well

745
00:38:19,140 --> 00:38:16,690
of huge amounts of energy but it's

746
00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:19,150
constant kind of if you go down to the

747
00:38:22,470 --> 00:38:20,830
deepest parts of the ocean the pressure

748
00:38:25,020 --> 00:38:22,480
would crush you if you went down there

749
00:38:26,700 --> 00:38:25,030
suddenly but the little fish are down

750
00:38:30,210 --> 00:38:26,710
there and they wag their did they whack

751
00:38:32,430 --> 00:38:30,220
tails they move their tail like that and

752
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:32,440
they could move along just fine because

753
00:38:37,460 --> 00:38:34,930
it's the changes in energy and the

754
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:37,470
changes in pressure that matter okay

755
00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:43,330
that field in my opinion which is on the

756
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:44,950
basis of everything in the physical

757
00:38:52,410 --> 00:38:48,370
world is the interface between the

758
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:52,420
physical and the non-physical cool the

759
00:38:58,110 --> 00:38:55,690
and by non-physical that's another word

760
00:39:01,650 --> 00:38:58,120
for the spiritual we were talking about

761
00:39:07,550 --> 00:39:01,660
the world of pure information and I

762
00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:07,560
think it's through this interface that

763
00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:10,990
all the magic is done in other words the

764
00:39:17,610 --> 00:39:14,770
magic is not really done in the physical

765
00:39:19,410 --> 00:39:17,620
world it's like you go down with your

766
00:39:22,410 --> 00:39:19,420
physical body which is intimately

767
00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:22,420
connected with the zero-point energy you

768
00:39:29,670 --> 00:39:26,470
go across into the spiritual world which

769
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:29,680
has access to everything immediately

770
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:32,650
that's the eternal now kind of concept

771
00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:35,530
and then you can go wherever you want to

772
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:38,550
you can go back up then to your feedback

773
00:39:45,510 --> 00:39:43,390
session experience it go back down send

774
00:39:47,340 --> 00:39:45,520
the information back and you're

775
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:47,350
connected and all of that of course is

776
00:39:54,900 --> 00:39:52,330
happening instantly but the intermediary

777
00:39:58,110 --> 00:39:54,910
place is this zero-point energy field

778
00:39:59,370 --> 00:39:58,120
this vacuum energy field that's very

779
00:40:01,950 --> 00:39:59,380
fascinating that's

780
00:40:04,829 --> 00:40:01,960
very interesting proposition you've put

781
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:04,839
forth there has anybody ever followed up

782
00:40:15,589 --> 00:40:09,609
on helpu top series on how Pooh toss

783
00:40:19,049 --> 00:40:15,599
what theory well I mean he is to me i

784
00:40:20,970 --> 00:40:19,059
way past my abilities but you know from

785
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:20,980
the little I've read about zero-point

786
00:40:25,019 --> 00:40:23,440
energy it seems like you know someone

787
00:40:26,539 --> 00:40:25,029
who's just starting out in physics would

788
00:40:31,349 --> 00:40:26,549
be all over this

789
00:40:35,519 --> 00:40:31,359
well it's well well past that zero-point

790
00:40:39,289 --> 00:40:35,529
energy is not debated you know that part

791
00:40:44,249 --> 00:40:39,299
of quantum mechanics and all that is

792
00:40:50,099 --> 00:40:44,259
very well kind of not only established

793
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:50,109
but he and so many others are working to

794
00:40:56,940 --> 00:40:53,130
find practical applications and in fact

795
00:41:01,789 --> 00:40:56,950
I know this is public

796
00:41:05,249 --> 00:41:01,799
he has contracts with NASA to look at

797
00:41:06,749 --> 00:41:05,259
advanced propulsion systems now think

798
00:41:10,789 --> 00:41:06,759
about if you could have a propulsion

799
00:41:14,670 --> 00:41:10,799
system that would use zero-point energy

800
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:14,680
off say the skin of your spacecraft you

801
00:41:19,499 --> 00:41:16,690
wouldn't have to carry any fuel that's

802
00:41:21,299 --> 00:41:19,509
to revive yeah and I think that's the

803
00:41:27,289 --> 00:41:21,309
sort of think that they're talking about

804
00:41:34,109 --> 00:41:31,710
would would have solved these problems

805
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:34,119
people are right now trying to get

806
00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:36,640
what's often called free energy and

807
00:41:40,319 --> 00:41:38,440
where they're getting it from is this

808
00:41:42,809 --> 00:41:40,329
zero-point energy field so people are

809
00:41:45,630 --> 00:41:42,819
working this very aggressively now well

810
00:41:47,970 --> 00:41:45,640
this I tell you how poof I've almost

811
00:41:50,039 --> 00:41:47,980
seems like a mystery man to hit me you

812
00:41:53,400 --> 00:41:50,049
know like his name pops up his name pops

813
00:41:55,589 --> 00:41:53,410
up here and there and it's like how come

814
00:41:58,680 --> 00:41:55,599
one person have been like all over the

815
00:42:00,589 --> 00:41:58,690
map doing all these things and you know

816
00:42:04,019 --> 00:42:00,599
you never see a picture of it oh I I

817
00:42:06,720 --> 00:42:04,029
don't know you know I understand no I'm

818
00:42:08,309 --> 00:42:06,730
listen I'm from a very naive viewpoint

819
00:42:11,069 --> 00:42:08,319
here I am NOT questioning this I'm just

820
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:11,079
telling you from my viewpoint like it's

821
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:12,640
like who is help

822
00:42:17,250 --> 00:42:14,890
with all these great ideas that how come

823
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:17,260
I've never heard of them you know it

824
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:20,290
seems that way to me like this is just a

825
00:42:26,940 --> 00:42:24,730
phenomenal mind and he just it is he

826
00:42:31,470 --> 00:42:26,950
being tamp down by the government like

827
00:42:33,480 --> 00:42:31,480
the way Tesla was is okay so I mean I

828
00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:33,490
don't know if you're I'm sorry I'm wait

829
00:42:46,410 --> 00:42:43,410
wait no no I am farmer when I when I

830
00:42:49,460 --> 00:42:46,420
interacted with Marty on the internet

831
00:42:53,310 --> 00:42:49,470
and invited him to be on the program I

832
00:42:56,190 --> 00:42:53,320
I've only met how put off once at the

833
00:42:58,290 --> 00:42:56,200
Irv a convention and I would not say I

834
00:43:00,510 --> 00:42:58,300
know the man I did speak to him briefly

835
00:43:05,250 --> 00:43:00,520
actually about being on shadowed reality

836
00:43:07,410 --> 00:43:05,260
podcast but in any case when I did speak

837
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:07,420
with Marty or write with Marty on the

838
00:43:11,490 --> 00:43:09,850
internet about coming on I had mentioned

839
00:43:14,100 --> 00:43:11,500
to Marty that one of the subjects I was

840
00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:14,110
planning on asking him about had to do

841
00:43:21,690 --> 00:43:17,680
with one same how put off and the to the

842
00:43:26,090 --> 00:43:21,700
Stars Academy and his standing on the

843
00:43:29,130 --> 00:43:26,100
stage there with Tom DeLonge of blink

844
00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:29,140
152 or 158 what is it I don't know I

845
00:43:35,460 --> 00:43:32,530
can't recall in any case he and about

846
00:43:37,950 --> 00:43:35,470
six other scientists of high repute

847
00:43:41,490 --> 00:43:37,960
we're standing on the stage with this

848
00:43:46,650 --> 00:43:41,500
former rock star and it left a lot of

849
00:43:49,650 --> 00:43:46,660
people out here in the let's say more

850
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:49,660
serious paranormal world wondering what

851
00:43:56,330 --> 00:43:53,290
the hell is going on and we did ask our

852
00:43:59,490 --> 00:43:56,340
last guest who was a second time guest

853
00:44:01,800 --> 00:43:59,500
dr. John B Alexander about what was

854
00:44:03,930 --> 00:44:01,810
going on and he didn't see didn't have

855
00:44:07,470 --> 00:44:03,940
too much to say about it but he said to

856
00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:07,480
be careful of investing in the in the

857
00:44:12,510 --> 00:44:09,370
company because you might lose your

858
00:44:14,220 --> 00:44:12,520
shirt but he didn't have much to say

859
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:14,230
about what the heck they were doing I

860
00:44:23,220 --> 00:44:20,050
actually called boot offs former former

861
00:44:25,020 --> 00:44:23,230
partner at SR I rust hog who is a friend

862
00:44:26,820 --> 00:44:25,030
and a friend of the show and he didn't

863
00:44:30,120 --> 00:44:26,830
have much to say about it so

864
00:44:31,950 --> 00:44:30,130
I guess we're asking you now Oh Marty

865
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:31,960
that's funny

866
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:34,330
yes I guess we're all in the same place

867
00:44:39,750 --> 00:44:37,210
that is what I wanted to bring up yes

868
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:39,760
the fact that how is involved in there

869
00:44:50,370 --> 00:44:44,770
and that gave it for me enormous

870
00:44:53,970 --> 00:44:50,380
credibility yes and I just saw a film I

871
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:53,980
mean like just now unacknowledged have

872
00:45:00,330 --> 00:44:56,110
you heard about that one yes no that's

873
00:45:06,450 --> 00:45:00,340
Greer and Pooh Dolph was actually in

874
00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:06,460
that for a short bit which I've I've now

875
00:45:15,360 --> 00:45:10,690
come to believe the UFO phenomenon is

876
00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:15,370
absolutely real and all that the to the

877
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:17,890
stars just because of my great respect

878
00:45:24,120 --> 00:45:21,270
for Hal I actually did invest in it

879
00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:24,130
really not enough money that it matters

880
00:45:33,390 --> 00:45:27,010
I invested in it to show my support for

881
00:45:37,170 --> 00:45:33,400
it right and yet a lot of people have

882
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:37,180
done a lot of negative stuff and told me

883
00:45:41,070 --> 00:45:38,710
about this because now I'm talking about

884
00:45:46,260 --> 00:45:41,080
it with you know friends associates and

885
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:46,270
they say Tom DeLonge is into this idea

886
00:45:53,730 --> 00:45:50,710
of negative yes UFOs yes

887
00:45:56,010 --> 00:45:53,740
and I happen not to believe that because

888
00:45:59,370 --> 00:45:56,020
if they have the capability to be here

889
00:46:02,280 --> 00:45:59,380
notice they're here we're not there they

890
00:46:04,470 --> 00:46:02,290
could have destroyed us long ago if that

891
00:46:07,890 --> 00:46:04,480
was their desire and that was what Greer

892
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:07,900
says and after listening to this his

893
00:46:22,770 --> 00:46:15,970
unacknowledged okay so I'm passed I now

894
00:46:26,130 --> 00:46:22,780
accept UFOs are here ETS are around the

895
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:26,140
big question and I think this is why

896
00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:32,410
both Russ and John Alexander who I've

897
00:46:36,540 --> 00:46:33,910
worked with both of them they both been

898
00:46:37,930 --> 00:46:36,550
in our workshops and stuff yeah

899
00:46:43,390 --> 00:46:37,940
[Music]

900
00:46:45,790 --> 00:46:43,400
I probably or maybe I don't know in the

901
00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:45,800
same place I am because I don't quite

902
00:46:51,210 --> 00:46:47,690
know how to put that together right I

903
00:46:55,540 --> 00:46:51,220
would like to think that they are both

904
00:46:59,710 --> 00:46:55,550
part of a positive disclosure where

905
00:47:02,890 --> 00:46:59,720
things like free energy and they said

906
00:47:04,690 --> 00:47:02,900
wait for future announcements yes so I'd

907
00:47:07,630 --> 00:47:04,700
like to think that Tom DeLonge has

908
00:47:10,569 --> 00:47:07,640
changed his opinion and it's the

909
00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:10,579
scientists in that group and noticed

910
00:47:12,910 --> 00:47:12,050
there were that the head of the

911
00:47:15,130 --> 00:47:12,920
skunkworks

912
00:47:17,829 --> 00:47:15,140
previous head who had just left his job

913
00:47:21,540 --> 00:47:17,839
was there indeed yes and you know so

914
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:21,550
they must have known about this deep

915
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:23,930
conspiracy which is the way greer puts

916
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:25,609
it out i mean it's hard to imagine a

917
00:47:28,990 --> 00:47:27,440
worse conspiracy the way he puts it out

918
00:47:30,609 --> 00:47:29,000
and that's the part of that

919
00:47:38,140 --> 00:47:30,619
unacknowledged film i don't know how

920
00:47:40,180 --> 00:47:38,150
much you know to take quite as deeply as

921
00:47:41,710 --> 00:47:40,190
he wanted to take it but what I'm saying

922
00:47:44,050 --> 00:47:41,720
is I can't give you any more information

923
00:47:46,780 --> 00:47:44,060
on that because I don't know okay I'd

924
00:47:49,990 --> 00:47:46,790
like to think Hal is still pure yes and

925
00:47:51,849 --> 00:47:50,000
hasn't been around it threat in some way

926
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:51,859
or corrupt it right but it might be

927
00:47:56,530 --> 00:47:53,990
threatened because what was one this is

928
00:47:59,589 --> 00:47:56,540
this is the way I look at it and maybe

929
00:48:01,450 --> 00:47:59,599
Kate agrees with most of what I have to

930
00:48:03,430 --> 00:48:01,460
say first of all I have to say I don't

931
00:48:05,319 --> 00:48:03,440
have a dog in the race in terms of what

932
00:48:08,020 --> 00:48:05,329
happens with to the stars you know I'm

933
00:48:12,220 --> 00:48:08,030
not for it I'm not against it I am an

934
00:48:14,319 --> 00:48:12,230
observer at this juncture at the

935
00:48:16,660 --> 00:48:14,329
negative side of it it people are saying

936
00:48:19,870 --> 00:48:16,670
that Tom DeLonge is apparently going to

937
00:48:21,430 --> 00:48:19,880
take a big a big salary off of this I

938
00:48:24,099 --> 00:48:21,440
don't know why he would need to and I

939
00:48:27,430 --> 00:48:24,109
don't know if that's true the other part

940
00:48:32,220 --> 00:48:27,440
is that there are it's a three part it's

941
00:48:36,130 --> 00:48:32,230
a three part deal where one part is

942
00:48:39,130 --> 00:48:36,140
entertainment the other part is research

943
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:39,140
and the other part is education or just

944
00:48:43,809 --> 00:48:41,210
the disclosure part of it that's the way

945
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:43,819
I understand it now Greer on the other

946
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:46,490
hand believes that the et contact is all

947
00:48:52,329 --> 00:48:50,210
positive and Tom DeLonge has written

948
00:48:58,599 --> 00:48:52,339
science fiction

949
00:49:02,440 --> 00:48:58,609
where the the ETS are negative and

950
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:02,450
hostile and a people are afraid that for

951
00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:04,880
whatever reason that the people who have

952
00:49:09,130 --> 00:49:07,130
come out with him on the stage and I

953
00:49:11,289 --> 00:49:09,140
don't believe this nor do i disbelieve

954
00:49:13,870 --> 00:49:11,299
it though I'm inclined not to believe it

955
00:49:18,009 --> 00:49:13,880
entirely but these people believe that

956
00:49:22,539 --> 00:49:18,019
this is a government siop to make you

957
00:49:24,759 --> 00:49:22,549
afraid of et should ET show up and the

958
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:24,769
three of us here are engineer Kate and

959
00:49:30,009 --> 00:49:27,650
myself we're all experiencers so we do

960
00:49:32,410 --> 00:49:30,019
believe something is going on now in

961
00:49:36,069 --> 00:49:32,420
terms of it being ET in other words some

962
00:49:39,759 --> 00:49:36,079
some ship from Zeta Reticuli or Alpha

963
00:49:42,099 --> 00:49:39,769
Centauri hey I don't know is it is it

964
00:49:44,019 --> 00:49:42,109
different dimensional creatures that

965
00:49:46,150 --> 00:49:44,029
probably are they are on a different

966
00:49:47,799 --> 00:49:46,160
dimension and that may be the way they

967
00:49:50,319 --> 00:49:47,809
get here so quickly if they are coming

968
00:49:53,019 --> 00:49:50,329
from Zeta Reticuli or maybe they're just

969
00:49:55,359 --> 00:49:53,029
endemic in our own atmosphere maybe

970
00:49:57,940 --> 00:49:55,369
they're like Jack valet a seems to think

971
00:50:02,319 --> 00:49:57,950
you know alternate type of creatures

972
00:50:04,180 --> 00:50:02,329
that may be within our own sphere they

973
00:50:06,220 --> 00:50:04,190
also could be people from the future

974
00:50:10,509 --> 00:50:06,230
though I'm not I'm not clear about how

975
00:50:12,039 --> 00:50:10,519
exactly how that works but do this is

976
00:50:14,680 --> 00:50:12,049
just to say that I don't really have a

977
00:50:17,890 --> 00:50:14,690
dog in the race but it would seem that

978
00:50:21,339 --> 00:50:17,900
the long as you had mentioned and Steven

979
00:50:25,809 --> 00:50:21,349
Greer are on opposite poles and what I

980
00:50:27,759 --> 00:50:25,819
would say to that is just like let's say

981
00:50:29,499 --> 00:50:27,769
the United States may have other

982
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:29,509
countries around that are friends and

983
00:50:37,089 --> 00:50:32,690
enemies et doesn't have to be all one

984
00:50:41,229 --> 00:50:37,099
thing does it no no I I agree and I

985
00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:41,239
still lean towards a side that says and

986
00:50:47,079 --> 00:50:44,329
this is what Greer said in another piece

987
00:50:49,809 --> 00:50:47,089
that private industry is going to have

988
00:50:52,150 --> 00:50:49,819
to bring out these free energy ideas and

989
00:50:56,130 --> 00:50:52,160
I'd like to think that's going to come

990
00:50:58,479 --> 00:50:56,140
through something like to the stars

991
00:51:00,089 --> 00:50:58,489
but we have to wait we'll have to wait

992
00:51:04,059 --> 00:51:00,099
and see what they do

993
00:51:06,010 --> 00:51:04,069
we have Elon Musk and and Bob Bigelow

994
00:51:09,010 --> 00:51:06,020
who are trying to bring

995
00:51:10,810 --> 00:51:09,020
space travel to private industry I would

996
00:51:13,599 --> 00:51:10,820
say and probably some others yeah but

997
00:51:16,210 --> 00:51:13,609
JPMorgan shut down Tesla because it was

998
00:51:18,280 --> 00:51:16,220
free and I think the same thing is going

999
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:18,290
to happen with this but eventually

1000
00:51:22,660 --> 00:51:21,170
electric car for many wait yeah let's

1001
00:51:26,980 --> 00:51:22,670
let's just stop there for a minute

1002
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:26,990
because for me and I think so many

1003
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:30,710
people I mean I got careers point which

1004
00:51:37,180 --> 00:51:34,490
was it's the free energy issue mm-hmm

1005
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:37,190
that's more important than the UFO issue

1006
00:51:42,820 --> 00:51:40,310
haha you know the worst scenario is

1007
00:51:45,490 --> 00:51:42,830
they're going to use the bad UFOs to

1008
00:51:54,849 --> 00:51:45,500
take control of the whole planet I mean

1009
00:51:56,260 --> 00:51:54,859
and I don't know but you know I'll tell

1010
00:51:58,900 --> 00:51:56,270
you I'm gonna just do an interesting

1011
00:52:00,160 --> 00:51:58,910
side note for you Marty this this is

1012
00:52:01,540 --> 00:52:00,170
something for you to think about it a

1013
00:52:03,339 --> 00:52:01,550
good friend of mine had been abducted

1014
00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:03,349
and actually never came back

1015
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:06,890
but before she left she sort of paid me

1016
00:52:12,460 --> 00:52:09,050
a visit which scared the bejesus out of

1017
00:52:15,310 --> 00:52:12,470
me I actually fainted but she said the

1018
00:52:17,170 --> 00:52:15,320
way that these people traveled was that

1019
00:52:19,359 --> 00:52:17,180
they had no ships that they would just

1020
00:52:23,290 --> 00:52:19,369
access their own mind and become the

1021
00:52:25,180 --> 00:52:23,300
ship and so I if she were and this is a

1022
00:52:27,790 --> 00:52:25,190
person who had no background of science

1023
00:52:29,740 --> 00:52:27,800
whatsoever and she used to go into this

1024
00:52:32,620 --> 00:52:29,750
in great detail but so that would

1025
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:32,630
actually speak to your point absolutely

1026
00:52:39,010 --> 00:52:34,250
you know and so you might be interested

1027
00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:39,020
in we've had well go ahead if you want

1028
00:52:44,980 --> 00:52:42,530
no no no it's just this we have to

1029
00:52:46,870 --> 00:52:44,990
realize that I come from a place and I

1030
00:52:48,940 --> 00:52:46,880
keep the same theme now it's probably

1031
00:52:51,339 --> 00:52:48,950
three conferences ago that we first put

1032
00:52:54,700 --> 00:52:51,349
it out there and that is consciousness

1033
00:52:58,089 --> 00:52:54,710
is fundamental absolutely it is this

1034
00:53:00,070 --> 00:52:58,099
consciousness field that is what is

1035
00:53:03,130 --> 00:53:00,080
transmitted through the zero-point

1036
00:53:04,900 --> 00:53:03,140
energy field its consciousness itself so

1037
00:53:09,220 --> 00:53:04,910
the idea that you're talking about I

1038
00:53:11,109 --> 00:53:09,230
totally resonate with and you can do

1039
00:53:14,500 --> 00:53:11,119
that we've you know they're these and

1040
00:53:16,300 --> 00:53:14,510
they're just so unusual and yet it must

1041
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:16,310
be a natural characteristic if some

1042
00:53:19,640 --> 00:53:18,050
people can do it and you hear all these

1043
00:53:20,900 --> 00:53:19,650
stories where

1044
00:53:23,029 --> 00:53:20,910
people do things there our last

1045
00:53:24,979 --> 00:53:23,039
conference I saw someone bender not saw

1046
00:53:27,079 --> 00:53:24,989
I wish I had seen it and videotaped it

1047
00:53:29,449 --> 00:53:27,089
but I know she couldn't do it manually

1048
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:29,459
she bent a rod you know we've all heard

1049
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:31,650
a spoon bending party yeah so at our

1050
00:53:36,019 --> 00:53:34,170
last conference I had a spoon and rod

1051
00:53:40,910 --> 00:53:36,029
bending conference so I had some rods

1052
00:53:45,829 --> 00:53:40,920
there and this psychic detective Nancy

1053
00:53:49,940 --> 00:53:45,839
the twerk day turned this rod into a

1054
00:53:52,609 --> 00:53:49,950
horseshoe literally and so the powers of

1055
00:53:54,709 --> 00:53:52,619
the mind are incredible and I've seen

1056
00:53:57,589 --> 00:53:54,719
experiments with manifestations that

1057
00:54:00,229 --> 00:53:57,599
look physical that they weren't really

1058
00:54:02,180 --> 00:54:00,239
in this case but the example you gave I

1059
00:54:03,979 --> 00:54:02,190
believe I want to throw out one more

1060
00:54:07,459 --> 00:54:03,989
thing because I'm about to give a

1061
00:54:13,999 --> 00:54:07,469
lecture in fact tomorrow on quantum

1062
00:54:15,140 --> 00:54:14,009
computers that is a wonderful thing

1063
00:54:19,130 --> 00:54:15,150
which is going on

1064
00:54:22,609 --> 00:54:19,140
universities are competing I made a

1065
00:54:24,799 --> 00:54:22,619
chart of the dates the big thing that

1066
00:54:27,739 --> 00:54:24,809
you used to count quantum computers are

1067
00:54:31,910 --> 00:54:27,749
called qubits the quantum bit sort of

1068
00:54:34,729 --> 00:54:31,920
thing mm-hmm and it goes on an

1069
00:54:36,769 --> 00:54:34,739
exponential curve just like a lot of

1070
00:54:40,249 --> 00:54:36,779
other things and we're going to be up to

1071
00:54:44,509 --> 00:54:40,259
a trillion bits within about a million

1072
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:44,519
years about 50 years okay trillion bits

1073
00:54:50,839 --> 00:54:47,729
that's like cells in our body I'm

1074
00:54:52,789 --> 00:54:50,849
beginning to think our nucleus connected

1075
00:54:55,339 --> 00:54:52,799
with these things called microtubules

1076
00:54:58,519 --> 00:54:55,349
and there's a guy ham Hameroff and

1077
00:55:03,400 --> 00:54:58,529
Penrose who takes the point of view that

1078
00:55:07,459 --> 00:55:03,410
we are in fact quantum computers using

1079
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:07,469
these microtubules I believe that I

1080
00:55:11,420 --> 00:55:09,410
believe we're going to get to a point

1081
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:11,430
where things like artificial

1082
00:55:17,209 --> 00:55:13,650
intelligence and quantum computers are

1083
00:55:21,469 --> 00:55:17,219
going to come together you when I'm

1084
00:55:23,150 --> 00:55:21,479
lined heard Marty I know I know

1085
00:55:24,499 --> 00:55:23,160
because what does this all mean and you

1086
00:55:26,029 --> 00:55:24,509
know already people are talking about

1087
00:55:29,059 --> 00:55:26,039
worrying about artificial intelligence

1088
00:55:31,309 --> 00:55:29,069
we've all seen movies where they kick

1089
00:55:32,880 --> 00:55:31,319
over the world against scary stuff I

1090
00:55:35,310 --> 00:55:32,890
don't think it has to be that

1091
00:55:37,410 --> 00:55:35,320
wait well but gotta get our psychology

1092
00:55:39,270 --> 00:55:37,420
together we've got to just become better

1093
00:55:43,470 --> 00:55:39,280
people we think we need some safeguards

1094
00:55:45,630 --> 00:55:43,480
you like science fiction right yeah

1095
00:55:48,090 --> 00:55:45,640
well Dan Brown just came out with a book

1096
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:48,100
that I've just finished origin you will

1097
00:55:54,630 --> 00:55:51,570
love it it's all about he actually

1098
00:55:58,320 --> 00:55:54,640
combined two different quantum computer

1099
00:56:01,410 --> 00:55:58,330
with a just a regular I guess like a

1100
00:56:04,710 --> 00:56:01,420
sort of a super crate type computer and

1101
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:04,720
he invented instead of one computer he

1102
00:56:10,800 --> 00:56:07,930
called it a bicameral mind so just like

1103
00:56:13,530 --> 00:56:10,810
the human mind is right and left that's

1104
00:56:19,290 --> 00:56:13,540
how he integrated these two parts of his

1105
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:19,300
computers it's a phenomenal idea origins

1106
00:56:25,590 --> 00:56:22,570
origin it's great but let me tell you I

1107
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:25,600
I've actually gone one step further

1108
00:56:33,960 --> 00:56:31,810
ah the I have down below the ZPE level

1109
00:56:36,770 --> 00:56:33,970
there's this universal collective

1110
00:56:39,570 --> 00:56:36,780
consciousness so it contains everything

1111
00:56:43,020 --> 00:56:39,580
well if you break those up into let's

1112
00:56:45,900 --> 00:56:43,030
say people mm-hmm all of us together can

1113
00:56:50,100 --> 00:56:45,910
be viewed as a network of quantum

1114
00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:50,110
computers and all that is the universe

1115
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:52,270
of collective consciousness uh-huh it's

1116
00:57:02,670 --> 00:56:56,890
like the supercomputer my mind is

1117
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:02,680
hurting it's changing as each of us

1118
00:57:12,620 --> 00:57:05,920
change the supercomputer changes so we

1119
00:57:19,950 --> 00:57:16,830
multiverse as the case may be well this

1120
00:57:23,460 --> 00:57:19,960
is this has just been totally fantastic

1121
00:57:27,480 --> 00:57:23,470
and interesting Marty and I just want to

1122
00:57:29,430 --> 00:57:27,490
close with the idea of finding out if

1123
00:57:33,270 --> 00:57:29,440
you're going to be at the ERV a

1124
00:57:38,310 --> 00:57:33,280
convention in Las Vegas next June where

1125
00:57:41,250 --> 00:57:38,320
the SSE is joining together under John

1126
00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:41,260
Alexander is hosting it are you going to

1127
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:45,430
host a and an ARV a session before or

1128
00:57:51,060 --> 00:57:46,930
after

1129
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:51,070
right before hope you've set up ours so

1130
00:57:57,720 --> 00:57:54,970
it goes Sunday Monday Tuesday and then

1131
00:58:00,690 --> 00:57:57,730
the SCE irva conference starts Wednesday

1132
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:00,700
so people could do both and we did that

1133
00:58:06,750 --> 00:58:04,480
on purpose man that one week you travel

1134
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:06,760
you know you come in on Saturday night

1135
00:58:10,890 --> 00:58:08,830
you stay the full week you go out the

1136
00:58:14,610 --> 00:58:10,900
following Sunday and you can see both

1137
00:58:16,530 --> 00:58:14,620
well I hope to be seeing you at all

1138
00:58:18,540 --> 00:58:16,540
three things so to speak even though

1139
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:18,550
it's a city if two things are combined

1140
00:58:21,510 --> 00:58:20,770
and your thing is before and it sounds

1141
00:58:26,070 --> 00:58:21,520
fabulous

1142
00:58:29,100 --> 00:58:26,080
so yes why don't you just repeat all of

1143
00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:29,110
repeat your website and repeat how

1144
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:30,880
people can contact you if they're

1145
00:58:35,370 --> 00:58:32,890
interested etcetera

1146
00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:35,380
okay that's beautiful yeah the website

1147
00:58:46,410 --> 00:58:40,810
is applied Precog comm so the word

1148
00:58:48,000 --> 00:58:46,420
applied and then PR ecog comm and if you

1149
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:48,010
go there there's a way of sending

1150
00:58:52,770 --> 00:58:50,650
messages which go to our organization

1151
00:58:54,810 --> 00:58:52,780
but if anybody wants to they're more

1152
00:59:02,040 --> 00:58:54,820
than welcome to contact me I'm an email

1153
00:59:05,400 --> 00:59:02,050
person Marti ma RT y @p - I - a.com well

1154
00:59:08,610 --> 00:59:05,410
when we put up this this broadcast on

1155
00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:08,620
the internet we will include link to

1156
00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:12,640
your site it will be a link from our our

1157
00:59:15,900 --> 00:59:15,010
site to your site okay beautiful

1158
00:59:18,870 --> 00:59:15,910
beautiful

1159
00:59:21,510 --> 00:59:18,880
thank you so much yes thanks for such an

1160
00:59:24,140 --> 00:59:21,520
enjoyable discussion I really enjoyed it

1161
00:59:27,600 --> 00:59:24,150
I couldn't go home and take an aspirin

1162
00:59:31,530 --> 00:59:27,610
and we hope to have you on again we hope

1163
00:59:33,420 --> 00:59:31,540
that you enjoyed us shattered reality so

1164
00:59:36,660 --> 00:59:33,430
with that we're gonna say goodbye to you

1165
00:59:38,730 --> 00:59:36,670
and continue on to our listeners corner

1166
00:59:45,540 --> 00:59:38,740
Thank You Marty thank you very much

1167
00:59:48,750 --> 00:59:45,550
appreciate thank you yeah that was that

1168
00:59:51,420 --> 00:59:48,760
was really like mind-expanding and

1169
00:59:54,300 --> 00:59:51,430
interesting and really started out at

1170
00:59:58,470 --> 00:59:54,310
the small level and just burst out into

1171
00:59:59,380 --> 00:59:58,480
a big much big universal response yes it

1172
01:00:02,230 --> 00:59:59,390
is yes

1173
01:00:06,370 --> 01:00:02,240
so now we're at our point where we're

1174
01:00:08,440 --> 01:00:06,380
going to talk about our listeners and we

1175
01:00:11,500 --> 01:00:08,450
have some really wonderful listeners

1176
01:00:16,509 --> 01:00:11,510
some of whom have been experiencers and

1177
01:00:19,480 --> 01:00:16,519
I wanted to mention two different women

1178
01:00:24,069 --> 01:00:19,490
who have been on our listeners corner

1179
01:00:27,670 --> 01:00:24,079
the first one is June Ponte who was on a

1180
01:00:31,150 --> 01:00:27,680
few shows ago with her UFO experience

1181
01:00:32,710 --> 01:00:31,160
and currently and I I realized that a

1182
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:32,720
lot of people are not going to be

1183
01:00:37,000 --> 01:00:34,970
listening to this show immediately after

1184
01:00:39,039 --> 01:00:37,010
its published so you'll just have to

1185
01:00:42,069 --> 01:00:39,049
check out what's going on at this place

1186
01:00:45,339 --> 01:00:42,079
at that time but currently as of the

1187
01:00:48,420 --> 01:00:45,349
middle of November 2017 June Ponte has

1188
01:00:51,430 --> 01:00:48,430
an art show going on at the artery in

1189
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:51,440
Milford Pennsylvania the artery is an

1190
01:00:57,279 --> 01:00:53,930
art gallery on the one of the two main

1191
01:00:59,170 --> 01:00:57,289
streets of Milford PA and I think it was

1192
01:01:00,549 --> 01:00:59,180
quite a good show I did manage to get

1193
01:01:03,730 --> 01:01:00,559
out there and see it and I want to

1194
01:01:07,359 --> 01:01:03,740
congratulate June on her work now moving

1195
01:01:09,249 --> 01:01:07,369
on to another one of our listeners we

1196
01:01:14,170 --> 01:01:09,259
have Diane way bright do you recall

1197
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:14,180
Diane also had some UFO experiences in

1198
01:01:23,499 --> 01:01:19,450
her life and is a real consciousness

1199
01:01:26,230 --> 01:01:23,509
pioneer somebody who really is trying to

1200
01:01:28,390 --> 01:01:26,240
promote the concepts of consciousness

1201
01:01:29,890 --> 01:01:28,400
and she has she's an artist as well

1202
01:01:31,690 --> 01:01:29,900
isn't that interesting

1203
01:01:34,359 --> 01:01:31,700
yeah they're all artists I mean the

1204
01:01:36,609 --> 01:01:34,369
people we for most of our listeners that

1205
01:01:41,230 --> 01:01:36,619
have been experiences are also artists

1206
01:01:43,029 --> 01:01:41,240
Anthony and you well I have a master's

1207
01:01:45,999 --> 01:01:43,039
degree in fine arts you know it makes

1208
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:46,009
sense and are good or a good engineer

1209
01:01:50,769 --> 01:01:48,410
here bill is a fantastic musician so but

1210
01:01:53,470 --> 01:01:50,779
I can't even draw stick figures so I'm

1211
01:01:56,470 --> 01:01:53,480
sorry well well you you're a special

1212
01:01:58,870 --> 01:01:56,480
case and we love you anyway Kate but I

1213
01:02:01,480 --> 01:01:58,880
can't sing either no I can't sing either

1214
01:02:03,789 --> 01:02:01,490
but that's I can't you know draw I can

1215
01:02:05,230 --> 01:02:03,799
do things to write fairly well I can

1216
01:02:10,210 --> 01:02:05,240
sing but you don't want to hear it no I

1217
01:02:12,270 --> 01:02:10,220
don't know but now here we go with Diane

1218
01:02:14,850 --> 01:02:12,280
way brights latest

1219
01:02:17,700 --> 01:02:14,860
latest creation here and she is she's an

1220
01:02:21,140 --> 01:02:17,710
extremely creative individual and she

1221
01:02:23,790 --> 01:02:21,150
has illustrated a children's book and

1222
01:02:27,840 --> 01:02:23,800
the name of the children's book is

1223
01:02:32,250 --> 01:02:27,850
imagine if thoughts were balloons okay

1224
01:02:35,100 --> 01:02:32,260
and it writes it goes through it's it's

1225
01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:35,110
really for little kids probably kids who

1226
01:02:40,470 --> 01:02:37,930
can't actually read it to themselves but

1227
01:02:43,470 --> 01:02:40,480
it's a beautiful color book yeah where

1228
01:02:46,800 --> 01:02:43,480
we see it's it's a large a large scale a

1229
01:02:48,450 --> 01:02:46,810
large format book and I'm going to I'm

1230
01:02:51,690 --> 01:02:48,460
going to just read a little bit of it

1231
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:51,700
and you'll have to buy the book in in

1232
01:02:57,810 --> 01:02:54,610
order to it see the pictures that she

1233
01:03:02,490 --> 01:02:57,820
drew it was written by Rico Vann Venuti

1234
01:03:04,710 --> 01:03:02,500
and illustrated by Diane Wave right so

1235
01:03:07,770 --> 01:03:04,720
I'm gonna read a little bit of it here

1236
01:03:11,610 --> 01:03:07,780
where do thoughts come from those things

1237
01:03:14,430 --> 01:03:11,620
that you wonder like why is the sky blue

1238
01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:14,440
and what causes thunder or where does

1239
01:03:20,780 --> 01:03:17,770
the Sun go when everyone sleeps and why

1240
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:20,790
do small critters give people the creeps

1241
01:03:26,250 --> 01:03:23,530
do they come from a room somewhere

1242
01:03:28,950 --> 01:03:26,260
locked up in your head from up in the

1243
01:03:30,900 --> 01:03:28,960
clouds or under your bed are they just

1244
01:03:33,900 --> 01:03:30,910
words and pictures that float up in

1245
01:03:37,950 --> 01:03:33,910
space circling the planets or standing

1246
01:03:41,190 --> 01:03:37,960
in place are they given to you by your

1247
01:03:43,650 --> 01:03:41,200
father or mother an aunt or an uncle a

1248
01:03:45,900 --> 01:03:43,660
sister or brother are they something you

1249
01:03:48,120 --> 01:03:45,910
get when you're glued to a screen from a

1250
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:48,130
book that you've read from a movie

1251
01:03:54,060 --> 01:03:51,010
you've seen and it goes on from there

1252
01:03:56,930 --> 01:03:54,070
explaining that we all have thoughts but

1253
01:04:01,350 --> 01:03:56,940
we get to choose our thoughts which is

1254
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:01,360
one of the basic concepts in working

1255
01:04:07,260 --> 01:04:04,750
with our intentions if we choose the

1256
01:04:09,060 --> 01:04:07,270
positive thoughts if we choose the

1257
01:04:11,970 --> 01:04:09,070
thoughts that of things that we wish to

1258
01:04:15,390 --> 01:04:11,980
manifest we can all have a better life

1259
01:04:17,310 --> 01:04:15,400
or we can choose alternatively not to

1260
01:04:20,850 --> 01:04:17,320
have any thoughts at all in which case

1261
01:04:23,460 --> 01:04:20,860
we could become Zen masters but either

1262
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:23,470
way we want to perhaps reject the

1263
01:04:26,190 --> 01:04:24,970
negative thoughts and lots of people

1264
01:04:28,280 --> 01:04:26,200
even adults

1265
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:28,290
don't realize that they are able to

1266
01:04:36,180 --> 01:04:32,170
reject the negative thoughts yeah so

1267
01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:36,190
okay yes so we are about done for today

1268
01:04:41,030 --> 01:04:38,770
but I I do want to recommend

1269
01:04:43,890 --> 01:04:41,040
imagine if thoughts were balloons

1270
01:04:46,890 --> 01:04:43,900
written by Rico van venuti and

1271
01:04:50,069 --> 01:04:46,900
illustrated by Diane Way bright who is

1272
01:04:53,010 --> 01:04:50,079
one of our listeners one of our

1273
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:53,020
experiencers who've been on explaining

1274
01:05:00,089 --> 01:04:56,290
her experiences and it is published by

1275
01:05:05,010 --> 01:05:00,099
Hermes house press press of San Juan

1276
01:05:06,359 --> 01:05:05,020
Capistrano California so please order

1277
01:05:09,210 --> 01:05:06,369
this book it's a good one yeah it's

1278
01:05:12,510 --> 01:05:09,220
great for small children and it's nice

1279
01:05:16,530 --> 01:05:12,520
to have children start thinking okay to

1280
01:05:19,800 --> 01:05:16,540
use it that's just horrible horrible

1281
01:05:21,390 --> 01:05:19,810
cliche but outside the box it is you

1282
01:05:23,550 --> 01:05:21,400
know there are a lot of times children

1283
01:05:31,589 --> 01:05:23,560
don't really think about things they

1284
01:05:34,380 --> 01:05:31,599
just do really colorful really pretty

1285
01:05:36,450 --> 01:05:34,390
book um and I think reasonably

1286
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:36,460
inexpensive for those people who are

1287
01:05:41,099 --> 01:05:38,319
looking for holiday gifts for little

1288
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:41,109
ones grandparents and parents and

1289
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:43,510
stockings and stocking stuffers uncles

1290
01:05:48,990 --> 01:05:46,089
and aunts and friends and so forth so I

1291
01:05:50,460 --> 01:05:49,000
think that's about it for us Kate huh

1292
01:05:53,190 --> 01:05:50,470
the other thing so have any

1293
01:05:56,160 --> 01:05:53,200
announcements anything no no I'm good

1294
01:05:58,440 --> 01:05:56,170
I'm good so we're gonna be off for a few

1295
01:06:00,809 --> 01:05:58,450
weeks with the Thanksgiving holiday but

1296
01:06:04,550 --> 01:06:00,819
we hope to come back to you soon but

1297
01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:04,560
right now let's say okay farewell from